22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
Let's move on to that territory. Three of us here have all served in government, and we've had our feet pressed to the fire by your colleagues, as it should be. But we're not challenged sufficiently in this place. When I look at the challenge given to…
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
I accept all of that, but I think Lee's point stands and his challenge stands. I'm not sure you've fully answered that, if I'm quite honest with you. Because if you look at BBC Scotland, it also enables them to do different things. I watch Scottish football…
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
If you're making a programme, you're going to broadcast it—
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
No, it doesn't.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
Which one?
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
The Burton stuff was fantastic.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
Okay, so—
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
And that isn't happening at the moment, which is why I come back to you. The debate we had, if you remember, around the last charter renewal was very much—there was a reflection of Scotland here as well—'Do you want to go down the route of the BBC Scotland…
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
We had very basic conversations about production and the rest of it, and the situation's certainly different and has changed, and I think that is recognised. There's no issue about that. The situation with the funding of S4C has changed as well. I think S4C's…
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
When you joined the BBC. That puts me in my place, doesn't it? [Laughter.]
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
Can I just come back on a few things I have first, Rhuanedd? The BBC has clearly changed. When I was first elected, nearly 20 years ago, we had different conversations. I remember Michael Grade appearing in front of us when he was chair, I think, of the BBC…
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
We accepted it last time.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
You made that case last time.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
So, take S4C out of it.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
I'm not sure that the use of the word 'we' there is quite appropriate, but carry on.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
Hang on. That is funding S4C through the licence fee.
22 Ionawr 2026 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Darlledu gwasanaeth cyhoeddus yng Nghymru: Panel 3 - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r BBC
I'm interested in how the BBC serves English-speaking audiences in Wales, because I think we've debated and discussed the Welsh language services on S4C on numerous occasions, and I don't want to go down that route at the moment. But I'm concerned—and we had…
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
Okay. I'm content.
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
I was listening to that conversation, and I'm thinking we're doing all of these different things, but we started off this conversation talking about some of the impressions gained and lessons learned from the 1980s and 1990s and the rest of it. One of the…
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
Okay. But, 'layers of bureaucracy', what do you mean by that?
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
Give me examples of that.
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
Why?
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
The second part of the question was at the heart of where I wanted to be, because if there is a differential performance in Governments, then I'm anxious to understand what that is. Why is it—and Jessica spoke about Scotland as well—why is it then that one…
21 Ionawr 2026 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Mewnfuddsoddi: Panel 3
I'm interested in what you were saying there, Max, about the data and the comparison. I'm interested that the data doesn't exist, because my understanding is that there is some significant data that explores all of these different areas. So, I'd be interested…
21 Ionawr 2026 , Cyfarfod Llawn
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