26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
On the point around a broad emergency service in terms of the Welsh Ambulance Services NHS Trust and fire and rescue services, to my knowledge, there hasn't been consideration of that as a whole-scale change, if, Chair, you're talking about things like…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
I think I might ask the chief fire adviser to come in on that one.
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
We haven't ruled out an independent review of other fire and rescue authorities or other services in Wales. I think it goes back to the balance between actually making sure that we do have that assurance, and I absolutely recognise that we need to have that…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
I would absolutely think that there is a strong case for change. The position that we're in now—and I don't think it's just because of South Wales Fire and Rescue Service—and where, perhaps, local authority partners are now, and the WLGA, there is a moment…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
As I said, we know that the impetus, shall we say, for why we're having this conversation today is what has happened with South Wales Fire and Rescue Service and the intervention that was made there in response to those serious and systemic management…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Thank you, Altaf. As we've previously discussed here today, and in the Senedd Chamber, sadly, many of the abhorrent incidents and behaviours that were shone a light on in the south Wales fire and rescue culture review are reflective of behaviours elsewhere…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Diolch. Altaf. As we said, the commissioners have an arduous and complicated job ahead of them but one that is incredibly important as well. One of the things I said previously is that they would remain in post for as long as necessary, and until all the…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Diolch, Altaf. I think we touched on it briefly previously. I said in my statement on 6 February that, whilst there were particular serious and systemic problems in terms of mismanagement and misconduct in South Wales Fire and Rescue Service, which is why the…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Diolch, Jane. I'll ask Liz to pick up on that one, if that's okay.
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
That's being advertised as we speak.
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
—somebody to come in to look at that more and focus on the transformation and the cultural change that is really needed, not just to actually be able to tick off against the recommendations of you, but make sure that is embedded and sustained for the future…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
I agree with Jane Dodds that the focus needs to be on the work of the commissioners and the change that is needed to take place within not just South Wales Fire and Rescue Service, but across the piece as well. The commissioners have, as we've seen, an…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Yes, and I think if I'd refer back to perhaps—. I can't remember, sorry, which Member it was now, but I think we should be under no illusions about the scale of change and the complexity of change. I go back, and I'm not beating the drum of my own…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Sure. I'll ask Liz to come in initially in terms of the commissioner's role in south Wales, and then if I pick up more broadly about those assurances as well for north Wales and mid and west.
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
I think it's one of the things we've touched on previously in terms of when local authorities are nominating members to be on the fire and rescue authority, whether there are adequate processes in place to make sure that people are—. The expectation of them…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Diolch am eich cwestiwn, Jane Dodds.
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Shall I touch on the—? Yes. So, I think, in terms of—. You talk about, perhaps, the audit and inspection scheme as part of how fire and rescue authorities as public bodies are held to account. The way things—. The regime is proportionate to the relative scale…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Sorry, Chair—'blended' might not have been the best word to use, but what I meant by that in terms of the what the potential options for the future might be is some of the things that have been looked at previously that can then perhaps be augmented for the…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
So, in essence, the South Wales Fire and Rescue Authority remains in existence as a corporate entity, but with the intervention that's been made, it means its functions are exercisable only by the commissioners or by staff that act under delegated authority…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
So, that was an option that was expressly ruled out in the earlier consultation in 2018. You know, from a Welsh Government, from a devolved, perspective, that wouldn't be a practical option, because, ultimately, it would mean a devolved service being…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Thanks. A short question without the simple answer, I suspect, but, hopefully, the work of this committee will be able to contribute constructively to that. Depending on what form that changes might take, we may need primary legislation to make significant…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Thanks, Ken. Diolch, Ken, for that question. Yes, so, on the back of those previous consultations and conversations, the fire and rescue authorities have been opposed to any reform of governance arrangements, but have not offered any detailed reasoning behind…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
So, I think in the first instance you're referring back to the 2018 consultation again. So, my understanding at the time of the 2018 consultation was that unions would have been invited to respond as part of that and then responses from both Unison and the…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
Thank you for taking my memory far back to a different role and a previous iteration. That written statement at the time was on the back of and supported by a more detailed report that looked at the capacity workload and sickness absence of firefighters, and…
26 Chwefror 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant gwasanaethau tân ac achub: sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a'r Prif Gynghorydd Tân
I think the situation in south Wales shines a spotlight on—. I think, ordinarily, you wouldn't have expected the FRA to be responding to incidents of misconduct or inappropriate behaviour in the workplace; that should be for the chief fire officer and the…
