23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
So, that's why there's a difference in those outcomes. Right. Thank you. I think, Sam, you've got some final questions to ask.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Right. Thank you for that. You talked about GVA and some of those losses to the Welsh economy, and in your estimate it was £61.8 million if all Welsh businesses absorb the levy. What are the reasons for the fall in GVA being significantly more compared to the…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
I'm just interested in some of the things that you were saying earlier about the differences between Spain or Catalonia, where you talked about somebody from, say, Germany going there or going somewhere else, compared to the marketplace or the industry here…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Okay, thank you. Sam.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you for that. So, this is a fairly specific question, but the net annual economic impact of the spending on visitor levy revenue by local authorities and the losses in the visitor economy show an increase of £3.4 million and £1.9 million in the Welsh…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
How were you able to model that specific aspect of the industry, because of the limitations you've talked about earlier on different parts of the model?
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
And you've noted that approximately 345 FTEs, which would be around 70 per cent of the total FTE losses potentially, would occur within accommodation and food services, based on your neutral scenario.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Not taking away from people who might lose out, with the same caveats as you had—I've been sympathetic to that—but just on a data point of view, then it is a comparatively small number compared to the job market in total. Is that correct?
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you for that, Mike. Just touching on that question, you were talking about the job losses, potentially, within the model, and the optimistic and pessimistic, and your optimistic model is, in your own words, possibly pessimistic-optimistic. So, even the…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Mike, before you carry on on that, just on that sort of way of thinking, you've said that you're looking at a more pessimistic model, just to make sure that anything above and beyond and better than that will be a benefit. Did you do any modelling at 50 per…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you. I’ll bring Mike Hedges in that point.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Just a follow-up, before I come over to Mike, then: what would be the impact on the model if you had 100 per cent take-up, so that, basically, you made it mandatory across Wales, rather than optional?
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you very much, and one last question from me before I come to Mike Hedges. One of your assumptions in the analysis is that the visitor levy is applied equally across all Welsh local authorities. Could you outline the rationale for why you’ve done that…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
[Inaudible.]—a sense that it follows the same—. It doesn’t take into account variations or proportionality between those aspects.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you for that. You've talked a little bit there about data and that you struggle a little bit with data being up to date and the collection there. But you also mentioned that, in your input-output tables methodology, you can't estimate the changes in the…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Even with COVID in the middle?
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
You've noted—. I've noted that you've used data from 2019, which is, I think, in some instances, the most current data that you've got, unless you've then received any further, extra data that's more up to date, especially bearing in mind what happened in…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Thank you for making the time to come and give evidence this morning, and thank you very much for your written evidence and your report as well—very informative. I'd just like to look at a little bit of your methodology in coming up with your conclusions to…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
The Visitor Accommodation (Register and Levy) Etc. (Wales) Bill, evidence session 3. So, we're joined by our next witness. I'd just like him to introduce himself for the record, please.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 3
Wel, croeso nôl rŵan i sesiwn 3 o'r ymchwiliad yma.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you so much for this session—very helpful in putting context around your research, and thanks for the work that you've already done. It is valuable work. There will be a transcript available for you to check for accuracy on what…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Anything to add? And your final comment, I think, before we wrap up this session.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Unrhyw beth i'w adio?
