I suppose, going back to the things that hold everything together around the strategy and the blueprint, and understanding what the evidence base is for all of those, and where things are at, I would say all of that independence and support and insight and challenge has to be based on that. That evidence base needs to come from many different sources. So, that will be survivors themselves, and it would also be data, it'll be, potentially, deep-dives into certain things, it will be reports from both the national board and then the regional boards, and I know that there's work being done to create better structures there, which will also improve that accountability. It's looking at those national indicators. So, that would be the guidance, wouldn't it, for how things are going, and then I would be expecting to respond to that. And that might be, then, through further conversations with committee members, with specialist organisations, with public services as key stakeholders, to understand that further and, potentially, depending on how developed something needed to be, as Yasmin has outlined, around a report and those kinds of things—the production of that—working with the team as well.
And then I would expect to be doing a lot of things that would make sure that it was a real expert opinion, and also to provide that real guidance as to how things are going and to understand that further, and, where required, be asking for more of that evidence base. I would think, to go back to Jenny's first question, when we want to understand the picture, we don't have enough of that evidence base at the moment. So, there's talk of a repository of knowledge, and some of that repository of knowledge has to be about what the activity is at the moment. You know, when we look at criminal justice outcomes, there'll be lots of things that sit under that. What does that look like when we're looking at, as far as I can see, data around people who share equality characteristics? We don't have enough information about that, so I could say, at this point, the comment is that we need to understand it, and that would be the call to action for all of us, to be able to make sure that we all understand things. So, that would be my support to the committee: how do we understand what's going on better, because I don't think we do understand enough at the moment? And then, when those things highlight some issues, what are we going to do about it? I would very much hope to work collegiately with everybody, so sharing the vision that abuse is not tolerated in Wales—that we do that collectively first before it has to be that significant level of challenge. But if it needs to be, then so be it, and that's what has to happen. But there are ways to do that, and, as I say, I would want to have a building picture first, so we really highlight and, I would hope, that we will understand, through national indicators and all of these other things, what the significant areas are that are behind when we look at the ambition of delivering the Act and the strategy, and that has to be the driver. And there are things that have been put as priorities, so those are the things that we start with. But there are lots of things that we need to work towards to be able to deliver the strategy. Thank you.