, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Carl, you touched on this briefly earlier.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Sure. Excellent. Thank you. Back to you, Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
That's straightforward enough. With sanctions, the White Paper proposed a range of enforcement powers and civil sanctions. They haven't been included in the Bill, with the explanatory memorandum stating it would make the regime overly bureaucratic and…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Thank you. The Bill says that you need to share information. Clearly, NRW and MRA both are subject to that in the Bill. I presume from what you said earlier that you're comfortable with that, you think that's reasonable and appropriate. It probably happens…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
But of course, if it's not in regulation—if it's a policy—then should that be subject to consultation, do you think? You've nearly said 'no'.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
The Law Commission recommended that the criteria for categorisation be set out in regulation. The Bill states the authority must publish a statement of its policy on categorisation. What's your view on that approach?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Sure. Thank you. We'll come on to Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Similarly with management plans, of course, because we have a situation where the White Paper proposed that the new authority was required to produce management plans for certain tips and support the development of plans for all tips, but the Bill makes no…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Are you involved in developing guidance at the minute with Government in any way?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
It works both ways.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
And I know we're straying into maybe semi-political territory here, but there is no timescale, so it could five years, it could take five months. Surely a duty gives you that certainty and that clarity, rather than, 'Potentially, we'll get it done soon.'
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
MRA, yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Okay. I'm just conscious we have about 20 minutes left, and I don't think we're halfway through the areas that we were hoping to cover, so we may need to just change gear somewhat. I'll invite Julie, maybe, to take us on to the next area.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Which is different to the White Paper, of course, that was initially proposed.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Okay, thank you, all. Well, you've touched on the register of disused tips there; I don't know if any of the other colleagues would like to say whether you're content with what's been proposed.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Indeed. There is all that, yes. You're right. Okay. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Yes, sure. And we can pursue that with the local authorities themselves, yes. Okay. Diolch.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
You've reminded me there, actually, because we have a panel from local authorities coming in next—. Do you see that dynamic changing, because there is a question as to whether we just empower local authorities or others to do what the authority will be…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Okay. Dominic.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Okay, thank you. Carl.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
So, just coming back to where I started, really, this session about the potential risk of overlap between your respective organisations and the disused tips authority, can you just maybe elaborate a little bit about how you see your interaction with the…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Okay. Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Thank you. Carl wanted to come in.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Stage 1 scrutiny of the Disused Mine and Quarry Tips (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Coal bodies
Do I? Sorry, Delyth. Thank you very much. Thank you. Delyth.
