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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Thank you very much indeed. Well, that brings us to the end of our questions for our witnesses today. A transcript of our meeting today will be published in draft form and sent to you, the witnesses, for you to check for accuracy before the final version is…
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Okay. Well, while you're here then, thank you, I'll hand over to Natasha. If you could conclude the questions.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Thank you. As you know, we've run a bit over time. We have two outstanding questions. Are you able to stay to answer them, or would you prefer that we write to you with those questions for you to reply in a letter?
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Yes, thank you—very briefly. In the two minutes following your previous reply to me, and that's all it took, I found media coverage confirming that sentences given to executives at Kajima, a Japanese construction company, were upheld by the Tokyo high court…
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Thank you. Adam, back to you.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Thank you very much. On that point, I share very much the concern expressed by Adam Price, based on written submissions we received. The submissions we received said that public procuring bodies are obliged to exclude any supplier currently convicted or found…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
I have a couple of supplementaries, Adam, if I may, and then I'll come back—
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 2)
Welcome back to this morning's meeting of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee. I invite Adam Price to take up the questions.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Thank you. Could we go into a short break as promised? If we could resume, please, at 10.55 a.m. Thank you.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Okay, thank you very much indeed. Of course, this committee's interest is not only looking at how much is spent but how effectively and efficiently the public resources are applied, hence the nature of our questions today. There was a personal observation…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Okay. Mike Hedges has got some questions for you. So, over to Mike.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Thank you. I'll bring in Natasha Asghar to take up the questions.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Okay—. Sorry, does someone else wish to speak?
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
I'm sorry. Yes. How long do you estimate that it will take to properly rebuild the health board to the standards you're indicating, and what additional support, if any, do you think the Welsh Government will need to provide to this end?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
[Inaudible.]—the Welsh Government will need to provide to this end?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Thank you—[Inaudible.]
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Okay. As you're aware, HM coroner has identified a disproportionately large number of prevention of future death notices issued to the health board. As I recall, it was more than the other health boards combined. How confident are you that the health board's…
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
How confident are you that those named in those reports, which are now public reports, are not in a position to influence corporate decisions? I think you're referring to investigations into one particular department—finance—but, as I recall, those officers…
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Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
A series of publicly available reports have named—I'm not going to name them here—officers in the health board as having responsibility for some of the issues highlighted. How confident are you that all those persons have been removed from corporate…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
To what extent do you think there's been enough accountability for the past failures identified at the health board?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Thank you very much. Anybody wish to comment? No. You mention independent members and, clearly, a key requirement of independent members on a board is to freely, openly and constructively challenge the executive. How confident are you that, within the new…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
Thank you, and thanks again for being with us. As you'd expect, we have many questions, and I'd therefore be grateful if Members and witnesses could please be as succinct as possible, so that we can cover as wide a range of the issues as possible, generated…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: NHS Finances and Governance (Part 1)
So, moving on, we start today's proceedings with an evidence session on NHS finances and governance. The Auditor General for Wales published a data tool in September 2023, which summarised the financial position of each NHS health board in Wales, based on…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Introduction, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Good morning, and welcome, everybody, to this morning's meeting of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee in the Senedd. It's a bilingual meeting; headsets provide simultaneous translation on channel 1, and sound amplification on channel 2…
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Introduction, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Good morning, and welcome to you all.