, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Can I just interject? Do you have any data showing whether that model generates lower or higher costs overall than the agency model?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Owain Lloyd, did you wish to speak?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Rhianon Passmore.
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Mike Hedges.
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Rhianon Passmore.
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Okay, thank you. Natasha Asghar.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Okay. Thank you. Adam Price.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
So, at this stage, you don't have a trigger point, where you would say—excluding sickness—that that is in excess of the anticipated or average reasonable level that we would expect and that might merit attention.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
So, you're looking for hotspots, but—
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Okay. A final question from my opening questions: what consideration, if any, has the Welsh Government given to what level of other absences, other than sickness, should be considered reasonable?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
I know what they've told me, but I'm not here to give evidence. In terms of the causes of that additional pressure, are they indicating what they believe those causes to be?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Are you able to tell us what their feedback is regarding the reasons, other than sickness, for these absences?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Thank you. For clarity, you referred to working with a number of partners, including, I believe, the teaching unions—
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Thank you. What steps is the Welsh Government taking, if any, to understand the causes for and extent of absences from the classroom for reasons other than sickness?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Thank you. Natasha Asghar.
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
Diolch, a chroeso. As you would expect, we have many questions, and therefore we would be grateful if both Members and witnesses could be as succinct as possible, to enable us to cover as wide a range of issues as possible that this topic has generated. As…
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
And is Mr Lloyd able to do the same?
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Evidence Session with the Welsh Government: Covering Teachers' Absence
That brings us to our evidence session today, which is with the Welsh Government on the subject of covering teachers' absence. In November 2020, the auditor general published a report on covering teachers' absence, which was a follow-up to a 2013 report by…
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Papers to note
All but four, I believe. We will revisit that letter in private session should Members have any comments.
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Papers to note
Thank you. Any further comments? Can I clarify? In the response, it refers to the objectives of the Green Man Group. It's our understanding from previous evidence that a separate company was established to take this forward. Do we know whether that is part of…
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Papers to note
Thank you. Mike.
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Papers to note
Thank you for that sharing that. You'll have advance knowledge of the request that will come to you, and more understanding than your fellow commissioners of the background. Thank you. Are Members otherwise content to note? Thank you. Our third paper to note…
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Papers to note
Unless we have one already—. No. Okay. Thank you. Otherwise, are Members content to note the letter? Sorry—Adam.
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Papers to note
Okay. Well, we can, obviously, seek that information. There's nothing to stop you actually starting the draft, but we can't do the final draft until we have both that information and Members' feedback on it. So, thank you very much indeed. The second paper to…
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Papers to note
Thank you. The intention was to capture the letter's contents and reflect those in our committee report. Between you, you've asked for a number of further items of information or documentation. Is it your wish to incorporate those asks into the report, or to…