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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 6
It's the sixth evidence session on the Welsh Government's draft budget for our committee. We're joined by witnesses from the NHS Confederation and from social services. I'll just do the rounds and ask you to introduce yourselves and where you're from. If we…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 6
Welcome back to the second session this morning—evidence session 6.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Thank you very much for your time. We'll take a short break.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
The problem we have is whether or not we'll have time, but certainly there were a couple of questions on the shared prosperity fund that we wanted to follow up on. We'll write, but whether or not you'll be able to get it back to us in time is another thing…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I'm afraid we're going to have to bring this session to an end. It's been fascinating as usual. Thank you so much—diolch yn fawr iawn i chi—for making the time to come and see us. I know you're very busy. It was an excellent session from you. Thanks for…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Does anybody else want to come in? Andrew.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
What about the pressure on schools?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, what about the picture of education in north Wales or from Gwynedd Council? Can we just unmute Nia, please? Thank you.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, did you want to—? Yes. Lis, and then I may come to Nia to have a view from north Wales, as well.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Mike Hedges.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Anthony.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Good, good. I know that Anthony wants to come in, and Sam wanted to. Actually, Sam, do you want to come in with a quick question and we'll have to then look at—? And Mike's been waiting patiently as well, but there we are.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
So, that work is ongoing.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Speaking from that experience there, that's good. How well does good practice move across from localised, very good practice in certain areas? How do you share that best practice across the local government family?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, you talked about this earlier. I don't know if you wanted to come in on that first.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay. Thanks for that. I'll come back to Rhianon for one more question, then I'll have to go to Mike Hedges.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I suppose the next step on that, then, is if it's Barnettised and then if it's put through the revenue support grant formula rather than what's needed in different councils because of the different make-up and decisions being made on local government. So…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Have there been any conversations with the Welsh Government now to try and talk through what that NI increase impact is on those service providers beyond local government. I see Andrew, I think, nodding there. Does the Cabinet Secretary have an understanding…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Just on that, and thinking through some of the decisions especially around NI and the potential impact on third sector that support you and then provide services for you that are arm’s length, so aren’t guaranteed to get any funding settlement, could you…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Rhianon, did you—?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
From the planning point of view and understanding with national insurance and when those payments are coming and that sort of thing, any comments around that? Anthony.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, you mentioned this earlier in terms of national insurance. Do you just want to start on that, and then I'll go to the others?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Great. I'm going to move on if I may, and so, I'll go now to Rhianon Passmore to move to some of the next questions. Rhianon.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew, do you want to comment on that?