, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Local Government Finance (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Fantastic. Thank you very much. And thanks for making time to come to committee this morning. We've got you for an hour or so, hopefully, to go through this Bill. I'd like to start by exploring the background of the Bill, what part it plays in Welsh…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Local Government Finance (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
We'll go on to item 4, which is the financial implications of the Local Government Finance (Wales) Bill. We've got an evidence session this morning with the Minister and her officials. Would you introduce yourself and your officials, please? Thank you.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Local Government Finance (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Welcome back to this meeting of the Finance Committee. We're now going on to item 4.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Diolch yn fawr iawn.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you very much for your time this morning. We'll obviously have a transcript ready for you, to check for accuracy. We'll go into a short break now, and reconvene at 11.15 a.m. Thank you.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you very much for your time.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Diolch yn fawr. Any other questions from Members? No.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you. Diolch, Rhianon. Can we just unmute Rhianon, please? Thank you. Oh, hang on. There we are—go for it.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Just on that point—and maybe I should have declared it at the beginning, as a governor of a school—are there any implications on resourcing, especially around the data and the information that comes to governing bodies? Is there any financial implication…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you, Mike. I'll bring Rhianon Passmore in. Thank you.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay, thank you.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Just on that point, you're saying that having this as a statutory, mandatory element within schools is difficult for the reasons that you've given, and you mentioned earlier that there are other ways of doing this, and that that's occurring, and in your…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Mike.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Yes, carry on.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Mike wanted to come in on that.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Peter.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
That would be great. Thank you very much.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay, thank you.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Oh, sorry, with regard to the Estyn element, was there—?
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Rhianon.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Peter, before you go on, I think Rhianon would like to come in on that point.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. Diolch yn fawr. Peter.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
You've touched on the mandatory aspect of the Bill, and the guidance 'must provide that residential outdoor education is not compulsory for pupils to attend'. What's your view on that area and the level of uncertainty it potentially brings to assessing the…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. Diolch. Is there an element there, then, when it comes to that definition, that if it was better defined around things like location, whether or not there was a language provision within it—did it need to happen in a bilingual setting rather than…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
One of the aspects in this Bill and one of the discussion points within the scrutiny of this Bill has been around what is residential outdoor education, what's the definition. Do you think that has any implications in terms of assessing the resources and…