19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 2: Transitional and saving provisions (Amendments 20, 21, 22)
Right. And it doesn't in any way expand the scope of any—
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 2: Transitional and saving provisions (Amendments 20, 21, 22)
I'm grateful if somebody can understand my question, let alone give me an answer.
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 2: Transitional and saving provisions (Amendments 20, 21, 22)
Yes. Just in relation to amendment 20, it does seem quite broad and, from what you were saying there, it's deliberately so because there might be bits of re-enacted or consolidated legislation that interrelate with other Bills that you haven't mapped yet, and…
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 1: Consequential amendments to enactments (Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)
Fine. Okay, with that clarification, I'm happy and content to support the amendments in this group.
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 1: Consequential amendments to enactments (Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)
Fine. It's not that we don't want Welsh Ministers to have powers—
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 1: Consequential amendments to enactments (Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)
No, amendment 8, if I'm on the right one, which relates to grants for education and training, if I'm correct here.
19 January 2026 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Group 1: Consequential amendments to enactments (Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)
Just very briefly, amendment 8, which you just referred to in summary, which relates to section 304 of the 1990 Act that you referred to, about relating to grants for research and education, could you just walk us through that again? You seem to have had a…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
And there are no interim reports in terms of the different phases during Pegasus. You're waiting right until the end.
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Yes, but is there—
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Are all of the Governments taking the same approach in terms of Exercise Pegasus, or have some of them published reports already?
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Finally from me, Chair, the UK COVID inquiry, in its module 1 report, does suggest that we need to publish reports on exercises by all of the Governments within three months, and an action plan then within six months, and that they are all kept within the UK…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
We've had some evidence that has suggested that we need to strengthen the mechanism for learning lessons from the multi-agency exercises across Government. And one of the suggestions is that we do something similar to what's happened in Scotland with SMARTEU…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Very quickly, could I just flag up some of the criticisms that have been made about the blind spots of Exercise Pegasus, if I can put it that way? One relating to compound risks—for example, a pandemic happening at the same time as severe flooding—and the…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
And in drawing up the scenario, was one of the things that you were trying to reflect, in order to make it realistic and to reflect things on the ground, as it were, policy divergence between the different Governments?
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
And in terms of the blue team, so those who were part of the live exercise, did the blue team in Wales, if I can put it that way, have the same kind of access to data and information as the blue team in Westminster or in Whitehall or wherever would have?
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
I'm grateful. Could you give an example, therefore, in terms of planning the exercise itself? That is, could you give us an example of where you had influenced the choice of scenario, or the terms of reference or other elements, for example?
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Thank you, Chair. I want to turn now to Exercise Pegasus, which you've already mentioned. It's supposed to be a four-nation exercise, which has been jointly designed, jointly led and jointly evaluated. Has that happened in truth, or, rather, was it an…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
And just in that scenario, without going into too much detail perhaps, for understandable reasons, is part of that contingency planning ensuring that there are alternative systems and approaches? That is, if system A were to fail, for example, you would have…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Good morning. Have you modelled situations where—? As far as online communication is concerned, what if there was a technical problem relating to, for example, hybrid tools and so on, and if there was a cyber attack that meant that all of the technology…
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papers to note
Well, it's not unexpected, is it? It was on the record already.
15 January 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
I just want to note—I think that there is some correspondence from the chief executive relating to the Commission, and I'm a Commissioner. So, I just want to put that on the record.
13 January 2026 , Plenary
The general principles of the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales (Membership) Bill
Yes. Thank you for taking the intervention, Counsel General. I did raise a very specific point where a senior consultant at Blake Morgan, Richard Jones, has said that he alerted the tribunal to this very problem many years ago. I understand that the Counsel…
13 January 2026 , Plenary
The general principles of the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales (Membership) Bill
Now, this is not about blaming individuals, but it is about governance—how devolved tribunals in Wales identify, escalate and resolve legal and operational risks. Without personalising it, I think it is legitimate to ask whether a lack of renewal in this case…
13 January 2026 , Plenary
The general principles of the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales (Membership) Bill
Let me start by reiterating again that Plaid Cymru understands the urgency, and we'll be supporting the Bill. The Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales is not an administrative add-on; it's a safeguard for people whose liberty has been taken by the state…
13 January 2026 , Plenary
& 10. The general principles of the Senedd Cymru (Member Accountability and Elections) Bill and the financial resolution in respect of the Senedd Cymru (Member Accountability and Elections) Bill
If, at a later stage in this Bill, an amendment was laid down, along the lines that the Criminal Bar Association in Wales actually did present to the committee, which does do exactly what you've just outlined, that deals with the cesspit of deliberate…
