, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I'm going to refer that to one of my officials. Which one of you wants to pick that up?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think that's just an ongoing discussion that we need to have about what's the most efficient way of doing it. What we count as weeks is one of the ongoing discussions. We were just having the conversation upstairs, actually. You may know, Chair, that the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I'm sure we can do a note. It's a conversation that's ongoing between us and the Llywydd, actually, about the piece of technology that's used to assemble the marshalled list. There's a complicated set of reasons why we're stuck with what we've got. Actually…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It absolutely will need some changes to the Standing Orders, assuming that the Senedd adopts the Bill. At the point in time the Senedd has adopted the Bill, the Standing Orders will then need to refer to the new procedures by their new names. We'd expect that…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, I'd be really interested in having a look at that—certainly not as part of this though—and there are a number of other things that I'm very interested in having a look at. I defy anyone at all to follow a Stage 3 proceeding and understand what's happening…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think we've—. I am very interested in talking about that, but I think we've very much tried to keep this as a codification and simplification Bill, and I think that takes it out of that into what might be very interesting innovative procedures, but is…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Well, it depends what you think the Bill is trying to do, I think. So, certainly, as part of a conversation that I've had with a number of Members and I've had myself, the issue about where statutory instruments are referred by the Business Committee—so, they…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, broadly, the answer is 'yes' to that. There is one improvement, if I could call it that—. There's a terrible echo if you keep those on and talk. So, there's a new section 37F, which provides a default so that all statutory instruments are laid before the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, we have a very good working relationship with the Law Society and legal professions in Wales and I have already, in the very short amount of time I've been in this job, met with them, and we do have that interactive conversation with them, and obviously…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
We haven't thought it necessary to involve the Law Commission. They were invited to contribute to an earlier consultation on statute law repeals, but they didn't indicate that they wanted to contribute. They've brought forward a set of statute law repeal…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Do you want to do that? Which one of you wants to do that?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It's part of the ongoing consultation arrangements.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, the date is just so the sequence of numbering starts for a calendar year, so you'll be able to say that for the year 2026, that's the first year in which there's a Welsh statutory instrument with that number, so it's just a really straightforward…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I don't think we do, and I think we'll update the explanatory memorandum to reflect the Bill.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think I'm going to let the officials come in here as well, Adam, but I think broadly because my predecessor went through quite a big deal with the committee about that post-legislative review, and we did all of the things that would allow that legislative…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
To the national library, yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, we have a version that we put the seal on here. That's actually—. One of the big perks of taking a Bill through the Senedd is you get to go to the seal affixing ceremony and watch the First Minister do a ratchety thing with the seal that imprints it.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
We've sought consent. Sorry, I can't listen to myself feed back. We've sought consent. We haven't got it yet, but we've had lots of consultations. We're not expecting any kind of problem. I've yet to engage with the new Secretary of State for Culture, Media…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes, that's true. It's one of the stages of things that I think we need to do. There is a real capacity issue and it's one of the things that—. You and I are both on the Future Senedd Committee as well. It's one of the things that I know that committee is…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It's just exactly that: it's a tidying up provision, if you like. It's about accessibility, it's about allowing things to happen in Welsh law that I think some of us might be quite surprised don't happen. I have to say that I was quite surprised to find that…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Thank you very much for the question. This is a technical and administrative Bill and it helps develop the elements that underpin Welsh law and help make it more accessible. The purpose is to amend the Legislation (Wales) Act 2019, which is about making and…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
They can introduce themselves, Chair.
, Plenary
Statement by the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery: The Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I completely agree with that. I think one of the things, as we mature as an organisation and as an institution, is to continuously review our processes, and I think the way that we've started to pass these big framework Acts—it's inevitably the case that the…
, Plenary
Statement by the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery: The Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Thank you for that, Jenny. That's a very good example. There's a framework Act now that's gone through the Senedd, completed its processes, had Royal Assent, but now we need to make the subordinate legislation that brings it to life. I took that Bill through…
