, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Mary Ann on this, then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay. I'm just mindful that we are running out of time a little bit, so do you want to come back on anything else?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Andrew, first of all.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Yes, okay. That's very true, and it's so multilayered, I suppose; that's a big part of the challenge, isn't it? Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Thank you. An interesting example, actually, of the practical issues that authorities are grappling with. Thank you for that. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
I think Andrew wants to come in.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
We'll certainly come back to the skills agenda, and no doubt the resourcing as well. Jenny, you wanted to come in, and then we'll move on.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Well, we can ask them in a minute, because there are representatives appearing before us. Before I bring Jenny in, Mary Ann, did you want to pick up on anything that was asked there?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Yes. Thank you both for that. I think, as you say, it's important to have that target to drive action, isn't it, really? Okay, I'll bring Janet in then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Yes, okay. Thank you. Andrew, yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
So, you don't share Natural Resources Wales's view that the feasibility and the viability of the 2030 target should be reviewed.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
There we are, okay, we'll drill down on some of those issues as we go along. But, given that you've mentioned the 2030 ambition, can I ask whether you actually think it is feasible or should the target or the ambition of net zero by 2030 actually be reviewed?…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay, thank you for that, and Mary Ann, maybe, as the sort of dedicated spokesperson on this for the WLGA, to what extent—? Clearly, there's collaboration with the Welsh Government, which, in fairness, is what I asked about, but what about collaboration…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Welcome back to the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee. We move on to the third item of this meeting this morning. We're going to hear from the panel of representatives from the Welsh Local Government Association. Of course, we're…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you. So, the committee will now break for 10 minutes. We will start again at 10:30, but we'll reconvene a few minutes before. Diolch yn fawr.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay, there we are. Can I thank you for joining us this morning, for sharing your report with us and your reflections on where we are and where we need to be, and what needs to be done between those two points? You will be given a copy of the draft transcript…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Yes, quite. There's that as well. Okay, Jenny, last word to you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Huw and Jenny, very briefly, then, because we are short of time now.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Just maybe one final one from me then, because we are nearing the end of our allocated time. The conclusion you come to is that it's highly uncertain as to whether this is achievable or not, although in some of the stakeholder feedback that we've had…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. [Laughter.] Right. Okay. So, you haven't formed a view, then, have you? Or, at least, you're not saying 'no' or 'yes'.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Are we making best use of them, then, is the—?