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Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting
Item 5 is a motion to resolve to exclude the public. So, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(iv) and (ix), I propose that the committee resolves to meet in private for the remainder of the meeting. Are Members content? Yes, all content. So, we'll wait a…
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Papers to note
I'll invite Members to note papers. We have seven papers to note in the pack. If you're content to note them all together, we'll do that. No matters arising? There we are. Okay. Thank you very much.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Whilst you leave the room, we'll continue with our agenda.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Yes, I'm glad that we could finish with a very direct answer. I said earlier that one-word answers are great. Can I thank both the Minister and Deputy Minister and their officials for their attendance this morning? We've covered a lot of ground, as we always…
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Yes. Okay. There we are. Great. Fine.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. Finally, then, from me, the ban on single-use plastics, is it your intention for that to be primary legislation?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Yes, of course. You are right.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. The planning consolidation Bill. We're getting to the end, don't worry.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
No. Clearly not. The infrastructure consenting Bill.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
But the First Minister has said in correspondence to a Member of the Senedd, or has indicated, that the Bill will be introduced before summer 2023.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. Infrastructure consenting—
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Huw.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
So, gusto is coming on that as well, is it?
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Thank you. I appreciate that. The clean air Bill.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
So, is he taking it year by year? He's not taking a—
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
We're nine months down the road, and it would be good just to have an idea.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Which is what you told us in October when we asked you last.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Yes, you may confer, and phone a friend even. So, where are we on the environmental governance Bill?
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. So, where are we on—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. Thank you very much. I'm going to do my impression of a quiz show host now, because we've got to the last round of questions, and it's a quick-fire round. I just want to touch on legislation. Clearly, you have a very broad remit as Ministers, and that…
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Is that why, for example, you've ended the gigabit broadband voucher top-up scheme?
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay. So, what is your strategy, then, to reach that final 1 per cent of people who can't get decent coverage, and are we looking at use of public money to reach that final 1 per cent?
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Thank you for that. One piece of evidence or some of the evidence that we've received as a committee suggests that—and this is to the Deputy Minister—user representation of the group doesn't exist, and whether an end-user sort of voice should have been part…
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Yes, we can indeed.
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Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
There we are. Okay, I'll invite Richard, then, to contribute.