, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Sorry, Jenny, before we go on, Joyce would like to just come in briefly on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Well worth plugging, yes. Okay. Thank you. Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Yes. Okay, thank you. Back to Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay, thank you. Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Lee.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Huw first, then we'll go to Janet and then we'll come back to Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay, thank you. There we are. Happy? Okay, thank you very much. We'll move on, then, to the next area, which is decarbonisation of housing, and Jenny will lead on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay, thank you. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Thank you. Janet, you just wanted one more question and then we'll come on to Joyce then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
And then we'll move on to Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay, thank you for that. Jenny, did you want to come in?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Huw would like to come in.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
On we go to the second item, scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change. We're going to look at policy areas that the committee has focused on in the last year. It's difficult to realise that we have been doing this for a year, since the…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest
Welcome, all, to the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee. We are holding this meeting in a hybrid format this morning, and Delyth Jewell and Joyce Watson are two members of the committee who are joining us through video-conference. Aside…
, Finance Committee
Group 6: Review of the Act (Amendment 5)
Yes, thank you, Chair. That is, I don't have any opposition, obviously, to what's being proposed; I would be happy to support the amendment as it is, but, in the light of the Minister's offer to look at the length of the extension beyond five years, maybe we…
, Finance Committee
Group 5: Made affirmative procedure: minimum period for scrutiny (Amendments 3, 4)
Just to say that I feel that the Government's amendments respond well to the recommendations that emanated from the committee's work, and I'll be happy to support both amendments.
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Group 4: Expiry of the power under section 1 (Amendments 11, 6)
Yes, but it could be five years as well. But I'm hearing what the Minister is saying in relation to effectively guaranteeing that it won't extend beyond the end of the next Senedd. Yes. Well, if that's the case, then I welcome that very much. I'd happily take…
, Finance Committee
Group 4: Expiry of the power under section 1 (Amendments 11, 6)
Thank you, Chair. I'll start by recognising that it is a positive step that the Government has laid amendment 6 and introduced a sunset clause after five years, and, of course, a one-time opportunity then to extend those powers for another five years. My…
, Finance Committee
Group 2: Extent of permitted changes to the Welsh Tax Acts (Amendments 12, 15, 16, 2, 18, 19)
Yes.
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Group 2: Extent of permitted changes to the Welsh Tax Acts (Amendments 12, 15, 16, 2, 18, 19)
No.
, Finance Committee
Group 2: Extent of permitted changes to the Welsh Tax Acts (Amendments 12, 15, 16, 2, 18, 19)
Before moving on, Chair, given that my amendment, amendment 7, has fallen, I'll ask you not to move amendment 20, because it's a consequential amendment to amendment 7, and the same, given that amendment 9 has fallen, to not move amendment 21, for the same…
, Finance Committee
Group 2: Extent of permitted changes to the Welsh Tax Acts (Amendments 12, 15, 16, 2, 18, 19)
No, I think Peter's made the case very eloquently. It was just to reiterate that I acknowledge that the Minister, in her amendment, is moving in that direction, although like Peter—I believe that Peter's amendments are stronger, so I'll be supporting those…
, Finance Committee
Group 1: Scope of the power in section 1 (Amendments 7, 8, 9, 10, 20, 21, 13)
Yes, I do. Diolch.
, Finance Committee
Group 1: Scope of the power in section 1 (Amendments 7, 8, 9, 10, 20, 21, 13)
And I don't disagree with you that there's a potential for that. How likely that is, I don't know, but you're right that we need some sort of protection against that kind of scenario. But I'm arguing that we should retain that within primary legislation and…
, Finance Committee
Group 1: Scope of the power in section 1 (Amendments 7, 8, 9, 10, 20, 21, 13)
Yes, I presume it's in order, isn't it? Yes.