, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Thank you. As we heard, for example, this prevented the British Red Cross from providing aid. But I remember 20 years ago, we were wrestling the situation where emergency service call centres, or proposed call centres, were being challenged on the basis—or…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
And also note that it's not just Race Council Cymru; it's all protected characteristics, and any other groups who are best reached by non-statutory agencies, for all sorts of reasons, whether that's learning need, learning disability, culture, language, faith…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Thank you. And I would add to that that bodies, including Race Council Cymru, told us they have not been contacted about resilience planning since the pandemic. Do you therefore recognise, as they emphasise, the ability of bodies such as Race Council Cymru to…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Okay. Rhianon Passmore, please.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Adam, please.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
I would just comment that I know—because I got scores of e-mails at the time because of the roles I have in relation to, particularly, people with additional learning needs or people on the autism spectrum et cetera—that it was very much reactive rather than…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Sorry, Adam, if I may, very briefly, and then I'll bring you back in, I think the evidence we've heard stated that Pegasus focused on the health elements of everything, including the areas that you referred to, but not on the wider social care and other…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Only last night, I received a further briefing from participants in the UK inquiry—timings, subjects of the modules to come and of reports still to be published—but the concern received during our evidence taking is that several of the modules have not been…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
There were non-digital alternatives there, some of which have now disappeared. I digress a little, but a couple of weeks ago, there was an outage at Connah's Quay BT station, which meant my home and many others in the area not only couldn't access Wi-Fi, but…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
I presume that goes beyond morse code and beacons on the hills. [Laughter.]
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Adam Price has a question.
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Yes. But as you indicated, it co-ordinates an integrated role for relevant agencies when there's a—.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
So, that was the EECW operation—the emergency co-ordination centre Wales operation.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Thirty-one times. Was that the centre itself, or something less than the full centre kicking in too?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
[Inaudible.]—was it 13?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Okay, thank you. With reference to the module 1 recommendations on simplifying structures and strengthening preparedness, witnesses told us that the role of emergency co-ordination centre Wales remains unclear, and that it has not been activated since the…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Rhianon Passmore has a question.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Speaking for those blue-light responders, Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service highlighted the need for what they termed 'better battle rhythm' regarding the timing of strategic and tactical consultation groups. So, how will you ensure that scheduling…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Thank you. We'd better move on. There are lots more questions to get through. So, in our evidence, we heard that national responders find it challenging to service four separate local resilience forums and dozens of sub-groups when all four forums are…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Can I just bring in Rhianon Passmore, please?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Diolch. Thanks, everybody, for that. Just a reminder that the meeting is bilingual and headsets provide simultaneous translation on channel 1 and sound amplification on channel 2. We have a number of questions we hope to get through with you. I'd ask both…
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COVID-19: evidence session with the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan MS, First Minister of Wales
Bore da. Croeso. Good morning and welcome. We return to this morning's session of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee here in the Senedd. I welcome our witnesses, the First Minister, Eluned Morgan, and her team. Now, this is our sixth and…
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Papers to note
You're a great spokesperson for Mr Hedges. Thank you. [Laughter.] In which case, we can break for five minutes. If we can reconvene at 9.30 a.m., please.
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Papers to note
That's very kind, thank you. No-one else is commenting, so I'll assume that's unanimous. And our fourth paper to note was received from the Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd, Manon Antoniazzi, to myself, regarding decisions taken relating to the…
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Papers to note
Right. Could I suggest that this is included in the legacy report, with reference to the concluding statement that this might be revisited in the future, for successive committees to capture in their routine investigations and scrutiny? Thank you. Our third…