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So, they'll get the correspondence from the committee and they'll know that this is going to return.
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Is it standard, when follow-up action is being taken, that the petitioner is informed of the follow-up action that the committee is taking?
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I thought we'd agreed to do that.
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[Inaudible.]—budget round as well, it's worth pointing out, both at local authority and Welsh Government level.
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Yes.
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Okay. Thank you, Chair. I know that the committee has previously considered that and that it wrote to the local authority, urging them to speed up action and expressing concern about not enough being done. There's a letter from the leader of the council…
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I don't agree with all of these characterisations, but I don't think there's any point—. And it's worth pointing out, I think—I'm a Cardiff Member—that, actually, I think Cardiff Council have been upfront that road-user charging would come after they have…
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This is such a specific issue, the health committee may not want to get involved. They may be more interested in the more strategic point around recruiting and retaining the right numbers of staff in the health service and all the different factors that go…
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Sorry, the reason I ask my point, Chair, sorry, is that—. And when I read that part, I know the petitioner came back and said, ‘We don’t agree that these are small numbers.' Well, how large are the numbers? How many people a year still require in-patient care…
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Sorry, Chair. All those things rely on being able to recruit and retain the right numbers of staff and the mix of training your own staff. That's not just in nurse, therapist and doctor training, and it's a really good thing there's been the first intake this…
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The other part is how the service used to be provided here and where it's currently being provided and how. Because it's not as if people who currently go there are being left at the door or in tents. So, the service that used to be provided on this ward…
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But there's a question here not just about our time, but also about the answers that are being provided. The health board say they want to recruit staff, and they had some staff who have then moved on. So, actually, this is about recruitment and retention and…
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[Inaudible.]—leader of a party and knows how difficult—[Inaudible.]
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New Petitions
Three cheers for Ken Skates. [Laughter.]
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I don't know if it's a disqualifying interest, but I think it would be sensible if I don't take part in trying to guide the committee either way, because I will continue to give evidence to a variety of modules of the UK COVID inquiry, and I think it is…
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New Petitions
I have a constituency as well. [Laughter.]
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Because after the pilot, there'll be an evaluation that will take the learning points and what needs to happen, and that would give us a better idea about how quickly you'd need to roll out and what the issues are. So, is it about the redesign of the service?…
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Sorry. Pardon me, Chair. Can we check when the pilot concludes and when the evaluation concludes?
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Scheeres.
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On timing, I think we should seek an update on the outcomes of both the pilot and the subsequent work in 12 months. The correspondence plainly says that the pilot that is being conducted is due to conclude in autumn 2025, and there's not much point in writing…
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I mean, how they expect to do that. How much do they need to do face-to-face, in person, and how much they might be able to do remotely? But I think we need to understand what their plan is, and how they've taken into account women's voices within that as…
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Yes, to point out that this is where we are, but—. And it might help us to go back to the petitioner to say that the health committee is undertaking this as part of its own scrutiny for the whole of Wales.
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Thank you. Sorry. Just on the point that's been raised about the wider issue across Wales, our papers say that women's health is a regular scrutiny subject for the health committee, and there's a women's health panel that's coming up. Does it make sense for…
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Sorry, Chair—
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Thank you, Chair. It seems to me that the questions that are being suggested are really operational matters for the health board. Because what will happen is, if we write to the Cabinet Secretary, the Cabinet Secretary will ask the health board what they’re…
