26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
We now move on to group 6. There are three amendments in this group—20, 21, and 22. This group is about the process for appointing the BSL adviser. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 20. I call on Sioned Williams to move and speak to the lead…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
The question is that amendment 8 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see no objection. Therefore, amendment 8 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Amendment 8, Mark Isherwood, do you wish to move?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Does any Member object to the withdrawal of amendment 18? I see no objection. Therefore, the amendment is withdrawn.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Does any Member object to the withdrawal of amendment 19? No. Therefore, the amendment is withdrawn.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
I beg your pardon. Thank you. That was not an attempt to silence you.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Does anybody else wish to speak? I think that we generally agree that co-production is the most important way to proceed on any services, both for efficiency and effectiveness. But I think that words like 'leading role' aren't really legal speak, and I'm…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Anybody else? Jane.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
Are there any other Members who would like to speak?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
I'll call Mark Isherwood in the first instance, and then other Members can come in as well.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 5: Cydgynhyrchu (Gwelliannau 19, 18)
We now move to group 5, which is about co-production with relevant stakeholders. Both amendments are proposed by Sioned Williams, amendments 19 and 18. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 19. I call on Sioned Williams to move and speak to the lead…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 4: Canllawiau IAP (Gwelliant 6)
Okay. The question is that amendment 7 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see no objection. Amendment 7 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 4: Canllawiau IAP (Gwelliant 6)
Amendment 7, Mark Isherwood, in your name. We are due to take a vote on this now. Is there anything further you wish to say about amendment 7, or do you wish to move to a vote?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 4: Canllawiau IAP (Gwelliant 6)
Thank you, Mark. The question is that amendment 6 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see no objection. Amendment 6 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 4: Canllawiau IAP (Gwelliant 6)
Does anybody wish to speak to amendment 6? Well, as you're all catatonic, I'll just say that I think it's incredibly important. This is something that public bodies and other statutory consultees have asked for, to ensure that when they're being asked to…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 4: Canllawiau IAP (Gwelliant 6)
We're now going to move to group 4 of the amendments, and the only amendment in this group is amendment 6. So, Mark Isherwood, would you like to move this amendment, please?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
So, at this point, I'd like us to take a short break to enable the interpreters to change places.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
The question is that amendment 5 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see no objection. Therefore, amendment 5 is agreed to in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
Mark Isherwood, amendment 5. Do you wish to move to the vote?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
The question is that amendment 17 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] We'll now move to a vote. The question is that amendment 17 be agreed. All those in favour please raise your hands. Two. All those against please raise your hands. Four. So…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
Sioned Williams, do you wish to move amendment 17?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
So, we will now move to address three of these amendments: 4, 17 and 5. The question is that amendment 4 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see no objection. Therefore, amendment 4 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
Okay. Is anybody else wishing to speak on either the three amendments we are about to take to the vote or the other six amendments in this group? This is the opportunity to raise any concerns or clarification you wish on these amendments. Okay. I see no other…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
Thank you. Mark Isherwood, do you wish to address this particular point now or do you want to use it as part of your summing up?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 3: Ymgynghori â chymuned arwyddo IAP (Gwelliannau 4, 17, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15)
Well, yes. I think he'll then pay regard to that question in his summing up.
