26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 8: Cwynion am fynediad at wasanaethau (Gwelliant 23)
Therefore, we'll now move on to group 8. There's only one amendment in this group, and that's amendment 23, which relates to complaints about access to services. The lead and only amendment in this group is amendment 23, and I call on Sioned Williams to move…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
The question is that amendment 11 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see none.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Mark Isherwood, amendment 11.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
The question is that amendment 10 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see none. Amendment 10 is agreed in accordance with the Standing Order.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Mark Isherwood, amendment 10.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
The question is that amendment 9 be agreed to. Does any Member object? I see none. Amendment 9 is agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Fine. I wondered if we could now move to amendment 9. I assume that you wish to move it, Mark Isherwood?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Thank you. Is there anything further you would like to say, Mark Isherwood, in relation to the comments from Jane Dodds?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
I'm going to call Jane Dodds, because I failed to see her earlier on.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Very good. I call on Mark Isherwood to reply to the debate.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak before I call Sioned Williams? No. Sioned Williams, please could you present amendment 24 and also speak to the other three amendments in this group, if you so wish?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
Before I call on Sioned Williams to propose amendment 24, are there any other Members who wish to speak on any of these four amendments? Jane Dodds.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 7: Trefniadau adrodd a chyrff cyhoeddus rhestredig (Gwelliannau 9, 12, 13, 24)
We're now going to move on to group 7, which is about the reporting arrangements and listed public bodies. So, the amendments in this group are amendment 9, 12, 13 and 24. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 9, so I call on Mark Isherwood to move…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
I suggest we now take a further break to enable the BSL interpreters to change places.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
No. Any Member object to the withdrawal of amendment 22? I see none. Therefore, amendment 22 is withdrawn.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Sioned Williams, amendment 22—do you wish to move it?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
No. Does any Member object to withdrawing amendment 21? I see none. Therefore, amendment 21 is withdrawn.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Sioned Williams, amendment 21. Do you wish to move it?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
No. Does any Member object to the withdrawal of amendment 20? I see not. Therefore, the amendment is withdrawn.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Sioned Williams, do you wish to move to a vote on amendment 20?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Thank you. Can I call on Sioned Williams to reply to the debate?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Okay. Anybody else wish to speak before I call Mark Isherwood? Mark Isherwood, do you want to speak on the three amendments?
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
We did discuss this, did we not, at Stage 1, and I think the main concern of those who voted against the proposal was that it could lead to a referral to the Supreme Court on the grounds of it being outwith the Welsh Government's legislative competence and…
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Thank you. Does anybody else from the committee—? Mick.
26 Ionawr 2026 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Grŵp 6: Penodi’r cynghorydd IAP (Gwelliannau 20, 21, 22)
Thank you. Before I call the Member in charge, are there any other members of the committee who'd like to speak? Jane.