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Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting
So, I'd like to ask Members to agree to now move into private session under Standing Order 17.42 for the remainder of the meeting.
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Papers to note
We've got 10 papers to note. Are Members content to note those 10 papers? I see no disagreement on that.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay, thank you very much. We've come to the end of our allotted time. Thank you all very much for your contributions. We will, obviously, send you a transcript of what you said, and please use it as an opportunity to correct anything that we've incorrectly…
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Luke.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
So, just before I bring you in, Luke, Sioned, you wanted to ask a question.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Because the Minister for Social Justice has said that 11 of the 22 local authorities are actively passporting certain benefits to social tenants because they use the data they hold on them to ensure that they automatically get that fuel support payment…
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
So, you're not aware of any organisation that's specifically focusing on being able to measure any impact. Because I remember one local authority in London, they increased the uptake of benefits by 50 per cent—a very significant sum of money.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Thank you. I wanted to follow up on that, because other local authorities in England who have rolled out free school meals in all primary schools have used it as a mechanism for driving up the uptake of what people are entitled to. What evidence is there that…
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Luke, and then Steffan.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Very good.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Luke.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Thank you. Can I move on to Ken Skates now?
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
So, is that a regulatory issue by the enforcement conduct board, or is it legislation that's needed?
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
I'll just follow up on one, because British Gas sent us all an e-mail recently, claiming that they were monitoring the data on prepayment meters and using it proactively to see whether somebody was self-disconnecting, like the lady you've just been talking…
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Luke Young.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Steffan and then—.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Thank you. I'd like to move us on at this point to specifically look at the support for households with energy costs, because otherwise we won't reach that. So, we'll come back at the end, Sioned, if you have some more questions. Jane Dodds.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Sioned, is there anything else you need to ask?
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Sioned.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Thank you very much. Luke Young.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Roughly, what timescale?
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Steffan. And then I'll come to Luke, because he indicated.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Who wants to—? Steffan.
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Can I move on to Sioned Williams now?
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Debt and the impact of the rising cost of living: evidence session 1
Okay. Thank you. Jane, I'm sorry, I didn't see you earlier on. Did you want to pick up on that point?
