, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It was transferred, was it?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I have no idea, but I will find out and let the committee know.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I have to get to Cathays by 3 o'clock, so I'm pushing it now.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It doesn't feel to me as if there's an agreement between the Government and the Senedd and Business Committee about what the definition of those things is. So, if I were to suddenly say, 'This is an expedited process', there'd be a long drawn-out conversation…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Absolutely. But it's one of the things that we'll want to discuss again as part of the future Senedd thing, and also with the Business Committee. So, if you go back to my timetable for the legislative programme—and bearing in mind that's assuming that the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
There are a couple of examples of that where we were thinking of doing one and then it's come back out again, because—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
—for enforcement and so on, you want it in one place.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
The second one. Basically, the current building regulations completely supersede the Measure, really, and there was one last bit that was to do with sprinklers in care homes that has just gone through, so it basically now doesn't do anything. I have to pay…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes, it'll be next year. I can't be more definite than that at the moment, but we are working to make sure that we can bring the First Minister's legislative statement as early as possible next year. It would be our normal practice to do it at the end of the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
That's really straightforward. It's preparatory to the consolidation Act. We want to consolidate existing up-to-date law and not obsolete law, so this is just taking the opportunity to get rid of some of the obsolete provisions prior to the consolidation. So…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think Dylan covered that a little bit earlier, but I don't know if you want to elaborate on that.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
We currently publish copies of those on a dedicated part of our website alongside all the stopping-up orders and other temporary road notices that are not made as statutory instruments, and they're also published as public notices through local newspapers…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Put in terms that I understood, anyway, it's to make sure that we haven't left anything out and that everything that happens will then be subject to one of the three procedures that are set out in the Bill. So, it's a catch-all, isn't it?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I'm going to refer that to one of my officials. Which one of you wants to pick that up?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think that's just an ongoing discussion that we need to have about what's the most efficient way of doing it. What we count as weeks is one of the ongoing discussions. We were just having the conversation upstairs, actually. You may know, Chair, that the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I'm sure we can do a note. It's a conversation that's ongoing between us and the Llywydd, actually, about the piece of technology that's used to assemble the marshalled list. There's a complicated set of reasons why we're stuck with what we've got. Actually…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
It absolutely will need some changes to the Standing Orders, assuming that the Senedd adopts the Bill. At the point in time the Senedd has adopted the Bill, the Standing Orders will then need to refer to the new procedures by their new names. We'd expect that…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, I'd be really interested in having a look at that—certainly not as part of this though—and there are a number of other things that I'm very interested in having a look at. I defy anyone at all to follow a Stage 3 proceeding and understand what's happening…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think we've—. I am very interested in talking about that, but I think we've very much tried to keep this as a codification and simplification Bill, and I think that takes it out of that into what might be very interesting innovative procedures, but is…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Well, it depends what you think the Bill is trying to do, I think. So, certainly, as part of a conversation that I've had with a number of Members and I've had myself, the issue about where statutory instruments are referred by the Business Committee—so, they…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, broadly, the answer is 'yes' to that. There is one improvement, if I could call it that—. There's a terrible echo if you keep those on and talk. So, there's a new section 37F, which provides a default so that all statutory instruments are laid before the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, we have a very good working relationship with the Law Society and legal professions in Wales and I have already, in the very short amount of time I've been in this job, met with them, and we do have that interactive conversation with them, and obviously…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
We haven't thought it necessary to involve the Law Commission. They were invited to contribute to an earlier consultation on statute law repeals, but they didn't indicate that they wanted to contribute. They've brought forward a set of statute law repeal…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes.
