26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay, thank you. Jenny, and then we'll come to Luke to conclude.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Janet, I think the point has been made.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Yes. Janet wants to come in briefly, then we'll come to Jenny, and then we'll come to Luke to conclude.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
I'm conscious that time is ebbing away, and we're just about halfway through the areas that we wish to cover, so I think we need to just keep that in mind, if we may. Jenny, over to you.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Sure. And the other risk as well, of course, is that in decarbonising, obviously moving to low-carbon steel technologies, they tend to be extremely electricity intensive as well, so we're not going to get away from this question. It's not one that we can…
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Alasdair.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
So, are we talking about windfall taxes reinvested into industry, or how would that—? What would that look like, really? Alasdair? Sorry, Tony.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Yes, indeed. Indeed. Thank you. And just picking up on some of the political choices that Charlotte mentioned earlier, one of those of course is around energy prices, and I'm aware that Community and Unite have called on the UK Government to bring energy…
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Sure. Thank you, Charlotte. Briefly, Alasdair, and then we'll move on.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Charlotte.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Indeed. Charlotte, you wanted to come in as well.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay, thank you. Janet.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Shavanah.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Huw.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay, thank you. Alasdair.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Charlotte and then Alasdair, and then, maybe we'll come to Janet. Charlotte.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
There's no need to operate the microphone, by the way, it's automatic—one less thing to worry about.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Yes, okay, thank you. Huw.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Shavanah, yes?
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Yes, that's pretty stark. Thank you for that. That's really useful. So, finally from me, and then we'll come to Huw with a few specifics around decarbonising at Port Talbot, we've spoken about the UK Government, now, obviously, I'm just interested to…
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. Charlotte, and, then—. Yes, okay, Charlotte.
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Okay. So, can we point to any particular examples of European countries, Alasdair?
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Well, you've taken me on to the question I was going to ask next, so maybe, Tony, you can pick up on this. How does the support, or the situation that we find ourselves in with the UK Government in relation to Tata, compare to how other European Governments…
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
Thank you. Jenny, did you want to come in?
26 Ebrill 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio’r diwydiant dur yn ne Cymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag undebau llafur
And, going forward, we're effectively missing the green revolution boat.
