16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you. So, the committee will now break for 10 minutes. We will start again at 10:30, but we'll reconvene a few minutes before. Diolch yn fawr.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay, there we are. Can I thank you for joining us this morning, for sharing your report with us and your reflections on where we are and where we need to be, and what needs to be done between those two points? You will be given a copy of the draft transcript…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Yes, quite. There's that as well. Okay, Jenny, last word to you.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. Huw and Jenny, very briefly, then, because we are short of time now.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. Just maybe one final one from me then, because we are nearing the end of our allocated time. The conclusion you come to is that it's highly uncertain as to whether this is achievable or not, although in some of the stakeholder feedback that we've had…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. [Laughter.] Right. Okay. So, you haven't formed a view, then, have you? Or, at least, you're not saying 'no' or 'yes'.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Are we making best use of them, then, is the—?
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
No. [Laughter.]
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. Just coming back to the collaboration point that we touched on earlier—and I get the need to collaborate around technologies and those kinds of things—are we making best use of the collaboration that already exists, or the structures such as the public…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
There we are. Okay, diolch yn fawr. Delyth.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Did you want to come in on this, Huw, on the skills question?
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. We'll come to Joyce, then, if that's okay.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
And I appreciate the work you did was a much wider focus, but, clearly, it's one example, isn't it, of the kind of thing—
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Okay. Thank you, Huw. Jenny. And, just to say, then I've got Joyce and then Delyth as well. Jenny.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
More the stick than the carrot, then.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
There we are, and with 780 organisations in the public sector, I suppose you need to take that sort of wide focus. Yes, okay. Huw, and then we'll come to Jenny.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Yes, sure.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Sure. Okay. Lovely.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
No, and I would agree.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
There we are. Because the evidence we've received in the engagement that we've had with various organisations clearly see Government—. As you say, you look at the Government as part of the public sector in the way that you've approached this, but the…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
I understand that, albeit a critical part of it, I'd imagine.
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Excellent, thank you so much for that. I know Members will be keen to pursue particular aspects. I just wanted to ask about your decision not to issue recommendations, as such. I mean, the five calls, I get. Were there not certain recommendations that maybe…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Datgarboneiddio'r sector cyhoeddus - sesiwn friffio gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Ocê, ymlaen at yr ail eitem, felly, ac fel bydd Aelodau'n ymwybodol, mae'r pwyllgor wedi cytuno i gynnal darn byr o waith ar ddatgarboneiddio’r sector gyhoeddus. Mae hwn yn dilyn adroddiad Archwilio Cymru, wrth gwrs, sy'n codi cwestiynau ynglŷn â gallu cyrff…
16 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon, a datgan buddiannau
Bore da i chi i gyd, a chroeso i Bwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd a Seilwaith Senedd Cymru. Croeso arbennig i Aelodau i'r cyfarfod. Mae'r cyfarfod, wrth gwrs, yn cael ei gynnal ar fformat hybrid, ac ar wahân i'r addasiadau sy'n ymwneud â chynnal y…
