30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn
So, under Standing Order 17.42(ix), I resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Are Members agreed? Yes. There we are. Thank you very much.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Thank you very much for your time this afternoon; it's very much appreciated. Thank you for what you do and, yes, for all the information that you've provided to us already and your time this afternoon, and also, for all our witnesses today, it's been an…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And we have a data desert, effectively, at the moment; we don't really know. So, at least with a registration, we'll have an idea of the size of the market at least, and it will help with, maybe, allaying some of the fears and maybe help to do some of that…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
I wasn't advocating it; I was just asking about it. There we are. Rhianon.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And my telly's gone off as well, yes. [Laughter.] It's trying to tell us something, it is. But just a very quick—and it's probably from a camping and caravan aspect—. Some campsites might run an honesty box type of situation. I'm just grappling with how that…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
On that, I'm very conscious of time, and I appreciate we've gone over—
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Sam wants to come in, Rhianon.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Yes, an example earlier.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And especially with—
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Sorry, I just wanted to clarify that before moving on.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
—decided by whether or not those local authorities will take it up. Is that point you're making?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Just on a point there, Rhianon, you did say that the levy was voluntary; obviously, it's not voluntary, but it's—
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Thank you, Mike. I'll bring Rhianon in at this point.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
So, the provision within the Bill for premiums to be added, potentially, in the future, what are your thoughts on it? I'd imagine you'd say that you don't want the levy in the first place, so having a premium is—
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Lovely. Thank you.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And the aspect on the annual turnover part?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Mike.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Emma, did you want to come in on that? Yes.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Rhianon, did you want to come in?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Yes, certainly, Sam.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
We're getting a consensus of opinion from people.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
I see. Right. Okay. I understand the complication at a national level, if you like, rather than at an individual park level. Right. Okay. Thank you. That's great. I'll bring Mike in at this point. Thank you.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
What's your understanding—? You're saying it's complicated. Why is it complicated? It's the number of people times the—. So, I'm just interested in—. You're saying that it is complicated.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Okay.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
But there's a drop-down to one, two, three—