9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Okay. Go on then, Jenny. I'll come back in after.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Okay. So, there's no explicit criticism of that; you're just noting the fact that there is something there that you, as a regulator, need to be mindful of.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
So, what are those gaps, for example?
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Well, let's hear you try again, then.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Joyce wants to come in on this as well.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Diolch yn fawr. I'll bring Janet in now.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
And we'll be digging into some of those specifics in a minute. But, just again, as a general observation, obviously you have accountability to the UK Government and the Welsh Government in different ways. There's always a risk with dancing to different tunes…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
So how would you characterise that process specifically in relation to Dŵr Cymru, maybe relative to your experience with other water companies?
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
I'll just kick off with a general question, I suppose, about the price review process and the process's role, if you like, in driving investment in environmental improvement. Because, clearly, there are balances to be struck all over the place, and I suppose…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ofwat
Croeso nôl i'r Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd a Seilwaith. Dŷn ni'n dod at y pedwerydd eitem ar ein hagenda ni a sesiwn dystiolaeth bellach ar ansawdd dŵr. Yn ymuno â ni ar gyfer y sesiwn benodol yma mae Ofwat, a dwi'n estyn croeso cynnes i David…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Sincerely, thank you for appearing before us this morning. We really appreciate the evidence you've given us, and, again, it will all go into the melting pot with the other evidence that we've received. So, with that, can I thank you for your attendance…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Now, that suggests to me that either the tools are deficient or you're not using them effectively enough.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
We are out of time, but I am going to take the liberty of asking one final question, because I've been reflecting on this balance between the carrot and the stick, and you've been telling us that you're confident that you have the tools in your box to be able…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. We'd appreciate a note on that, then.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes, there was specific reference to Clwyd and Tremeirchion, that they'd been waiting three years for permitting, so, you know—
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Thank you. Where am I going next? Bear with me. Joyce. Jenny. Jenny, apologies.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Thank you. Huw.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Thank you. Okay. We'll have to move on to Jenny.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Sorry, Janet. I think what we're saying is, basically, there's a carrot-and-stick approach, but you never use the stick.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
No. You're right, and it's absolutely fair that you make that point. Janet, did you want to have a final word? And then we'll come to Jenny.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
So, it's 'no'.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Delyth wants to come in on this point particularly, and then I'll come to Janet. But we are halfway through our time slot already. Delyth.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
So, when we're told on television that that money’s better spent on infrastructure than on utilising a fine, you're suggesting a different approach there.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Of course, of course.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. I'll give you the chance to clarify.
