18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes. And we could have a whole debate about the merits of the Arup work and everything, but we won't go there; we've been there before. Thank you. Back to you, then, Janet, to conclude this section.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
We need to focus on the Bill—
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes. Sure. Okay. Very briefly, Huw, and then we will come back to Janet.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
No, clearly.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, before we come back to Janet, just to conclude on this area, much of the evidence that we've received has flagged up to us that 80 per cent of the noise around these major planning applications is about whether this meets the policy intent, whether it's…
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Sorry, Joyce wanted to come in as a well.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Sorry, yes. Okay. Janet, and then we'll come to Joyce.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, it might be different depending on the merits or otherwise of each individual application.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, how would there be clarity around which one has precedence?
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, they may flip.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Thank you very much, Jenny. Janet.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
But that would potentially mean, then, a change to the Bill at Stage 2 or 3.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Sorry, Jenny. I think Huw wants to—
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Indeed, yes. Okay, thank you. Jenny.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes. There we are. Okay, thank you.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. So, before we move on from resourcing, then, just for clarity, Minister, what you're saying is that your intention is to ensure that the scale of fees is high enough and sufficient enough to ensure that local planning authorities and other statutory…
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Can we just hold that thought, and we'll take a question from Joyce as well, and then we'll respond to both at the same time?
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. I have both Jenny and Joyce wanting to come in, so, very briefly, and I'll take you both together, and then maybe you can respond to both at the same time.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Huw, you wanted to come in on this.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
It's a fair comment.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. Thank you, Huw. And of course, all of this will come in secondary legislation. I suppose it illustrates the difficulty we're having in scrutinising what the landscape will look like as we deliberate the merits or otherwise of this Bill, but there we…
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, and we'll be drilling down into some specifics, obviously, as we go along. Thank you, Jenny. Huw.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
There we are. Okay, well that's positive, thank you. Jenny.
18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Seilwaith (Cymru) - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
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18 Hydref 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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